Мнения и Избор на телевизор (инфо в първите постове)

[Dominator]

Сега като видях какъв blooming ефект имат при субтитрите, направо се отказах да взимам нов телевизор.......

[Mirobota]

Предполагам си гледал най добрите модели на Самсунг и Сони, Наистина са много "зле" с blooming ефекта, особенно моделите QN95B и X95 при субтитрите......

[Dominator]

Предполагам си гледал най добрите модели на Самсунг и Сони, Наистина са много "зле" с blooming ефекта, особенно моделите QN95B и X95 при субтитрите......

Това не знам да ли не е ирония, но го гледах в тубата точно на QN95B , не знам дали X90J го има този ефект. В магазина трудно да не кажа невъзможно е да се види на живо.

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Sony X95J vs QN95 Samsung?
Кой от двата е по-добрия модел 65-ца?
Гледам че Самсунга няма DTS това проблем ли ще е да извежда към домашно кино през оптика?

Благодаря!

[hristoslav2]

Samsung_QE65Q95B - vs - TCL-65C835

LCD TV with mini LED - 2022 models
Brand & Series	SoC	Type LCD maker	Local Dimming	Black level	Peak Brightnes D65 (nits- window)	Contrast	Color tech	Relative color volume DCI-P3	Color Space Rec.2020	VRR Input lag	Max Technical Dynamic Range	Real Dynamic Range	Settigs	Notes
TCL 75C935X1 TCL 65C935X1	MediaTek MT9615 aka MT5889 120Hz（VRR 144Hz） Google TV- Amati UI CPU Cortex A-73x4 @ 1.37GHz? (1.6 max) GPU G52(2EE)MP2, 550Mhz RAM 3GB DDR4-2666 ROM 32GB :eMMC5.0 HDMI 2x2.1 / 2x2.0b USB x1 (2.0)	HighVerticalAlignment HVA - CSOT (8 domains)	96 x 20 = 1920 (7680 blue leds) 72 x 15 = 1080 (6480 blue leds) Led pitch - 14 mm Driving control led - 16bit/12bit	0.0001 nits (ANSI) 0.0001 nits (ANSI)	2200 nits	6050:1 (native)	QD G+R	93-100%	70-79%	HDMI Forum VRR AMD FreeSync 24-144 with LFC 17,2 ms(4K60) 7,6 ms(2K120)	24	23	--	--
TCL 75C835X1 TCL 65C835X1 TCL 55C835X1	MediaTek MT9615 aka MT5889 120Hz（VRR 144Hz） Google TV- Amati UI CPU Cortex A-73x4 @ 1.37GHz? (1.6 max) GPU G52(2EE)MP2, 550Mhz RAM 3GB DDR4-2666 ROM 32GB :eMMC5.0 HDMI 2x2.1 / 2x 2.0b USB x1 (2.0)	HighVerticalAlignment HVA - CSOT (8 domains)	24 x 15 = 360 (1440 blue leds) 24 x 12 = 288 (1152 blue leds) 24 x 10 = 240 (960 blue leds) Led pitch - 30 mm Driving control led - 16bit/12bit	0.0001 nits (ANSI)	1313 -10% 1600 - 25% 638 -100%	36000:1 (with LD) 6020:1 (native)	QD G+R	93-100 %	70-79%	HDMI Forum VRR AMD FreeSync 24-144 fps with LFC 17,2 ms(4K60) 7,6 ms(2K120)	23	22	Brightness: 45 Contrast: 90 Black Level 50 Dynamic Contrast: Off Black Stretch: High Dynamic Brightness: Auto Local Dimming: High Local Contrast: Off/Low/High Gamma: 2 Color Saturation: 50 Hue: 50 Dynamic Color: Off Blue Light Filter: Off Sharpness: 0-10 MPEG NR: Low DNR: Low Superior Gradation: Off/Low Motion Clarity: On Clear LED Motion: Off Reduce Fade: 10 Reduce Shake: 4-10 Screen Settings/Overscan: Off	Noise reduction does a good job of removing random noise from the image, but compression noise that is visible as block formation does remain somewhat behind. In that area.Since last year there is also the “superior gradation” setting that can eliminate color bands in soft color gradients. That setting works great, even in dark scenes like our Game of Thrones test, but it does make the image quite soft. It is therefore best to activate them only if you deem it necessary, and only in the lowest position.
Sony XR-75X95K Sony XR-65X95K	MT9970 (aka MT5895) 120Hz GoogleTV CPU Cortex-A73x4 @ 1.8 GHz GPU ARM Mali G-52 MC2 GPU RAM ROM HDMI USB		40 x 15 = 600 36 x 12 = 432	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::	QD	%	%%				--	when VRR is activated, local dimming is turned off
Samsung QE-85QN95B Samsung QE-75QN95B Samsung QE-65QN95B Samsung QE-55QN95B - Samsung QE-65QN94B Samsung QE-55QN94B Samsung QE-50QN94B Samsung QE-43QN94B	MediaTek MT99x0 120Hz (VRR 144Hz) Tizen 7.0 CPU Cortex A-73x4 GPU RAM HDMI 4x2.1 (40Gbs) USB x2 (2.0)	A-MVA - AUO (85") HVA - CSOT (75") HVA - CSOT (65") A-MVA - AUO (55") VA - Innolux (50") A-MVA - AUO (43")	x = 792 40 x 18 = 720 (65") 36 x 16 = 576 - - 30 x 12 = 360 (43") Driving control led - 14 bit	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI) -	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI) -	- 24120:1 (max LD), 3208:1(min LD) -	QD	%	%%	40-144Hz			Picture Mode: Movie Picture Size Settings: 16:9 Standard Fit to Screen: On Brightness: 3 Contrast: 45 Sharpness: 5 Color: 25 Tint(G/R): 0 Local Dimming: Standard Contrast Enhancement: Off Film Mode: Auto ColorTone: Warm 2 Gamma: BT.1886 / 0 Shadow Detail: 0 Color Space: Auto Auto or Customized: blur power : 10 Vibration Reduction: 6-8 Led Clear Motion: Off Noise Reduction: Auto or Off	backlight - low,medium,highyou cannot switch off via the menus, as you need to do it through the service menu
Samsung QE-75QN90B Samsung QE-65QN90B Samsung QE-55QN90B Samsung QE-50QN90B Samsung QE-43QN90B	MediaTek MT96xx 120Hz (VRR 144Hz) Tizen 6.5 CPU Cortex A-73x4 @ GPU RAM ROM HDMI 4x2.1 (40Gbs) USB x2 ()	A-MVA - AUO (85") HVA - CSOT (75") HVA - CSOT (65") A-MVA - AUO (55") VA - Innolux (50") A-MVA - AUO (43")	x = 40 x 18 = 720 - - 30 x 12 = 360	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::	QD	%%	%%	40-144Hz			--	--
Samsung QE-85QN85B Samsung QE-75QN85B Samsung QE-65QN85B Samsung QE-55QN85B	MediaTEK MT96xx 120Hz (VRR 144Hz) Tizen 6.5 CPU Cortex A-73x4 @ GPU RAM ROM HDMI x1 (2.1) / x3 (2.0b) USB x2 (2.0)	A-MVA - AUO (85") ADS-BOE (75") ADS-BOE (65") ADS-BOE (55")	- - 40 x 18 = 720 36 x 14 = 504 -	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	1100 nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::	QD	%%	%%	40-120Hz			--	backlight - low,medium,highyou cannot switch off via the menus, as you need to do it through the service menu
Philips 75PML9507 Philips 65PML9507 Philips 55PML9507	Mediatek MT9970B (aka MT5895) 120Hz Android 11 CPU Cortex A-73x4 @ 1.8GHz GPU RAM 4GB DDR4 ROM 16GB :eMMC HDMI x2 (2.1) / x2(2.0b) USB x2 (2.0) x1 (3.0)	- MVA -	~ 500 32 x 32 = 1024 x =	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	1500 nits (ANSI)	::		95 %	%%	AMD FreeSync Premium 40-120Hz			--	--
HISENSE 65U8HQ	MediaTek MT9900AAAQPC 120Hz VIDAA U6.0 CPU Cortex A-73x4 @ 1.8GHz GPU RAM 4GB DDR4 ROM 16GB :eMMC HDMI 2x2.1 / 2x2.0b USB x1 (2.0) x1 (3.0)	--	x = 120 x =	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	1300 nits (ANSI)	::		%%	%%	AMD FreeSync 40-120Hz			--	--
LG 86QNED99_Q LG 75QNED99_Q LG 65QNED99_Q	MediaTek MT9950 120Hz webOS 22 CPU GPU RAM ROM HDMI x2 (2.1) x2 (2.0b) USB x1 (3.0) x2 (2.0)	- - -	x = 2400 x = x = x =	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::		%%	%%	AMD FreeSync 40-120Hz			--	--
LG 75QNED96_Q LG 65QNED96_Q	- 60Hz webOS 22 CPU GPU RAM ROM HDMI x2 (2.1) x2 (2.0b) USB x1 (3.0) x2 (2.0)	- - -	x = 2400 x = x = x =	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::		%%	%%	AMD FreeSync 40-60Hz			--	--
LG 86QNED91_Q LG 75QNED91_Q LG 65QNED91_Q	MediaTek MT9950 120Hz webOS 22 CPU GPU RAM ROM HDMI x2 (2.1) x2 (2.0b) USB x2 (2.0)	- - -	x = x =	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::		%%	%%	AMD FreeSync 40-120Hz			--	--
LG 75QNED87_Q LG 65QNED87_Q LG 55QNED87_Q	MediaTek MT9950 120Hz webOS 22 CPU GPU RAM ROM HDMI x2 (2.1) x2 (2.0b) USB x2 (2.0)	- IPS -	x = x =	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::		%%	%%	AMD FreeSync 40-120Hz			--	--
LG 86QNED86_Q LG 75QNED86_Q LG 65QNED86_Q LG 55QNED86_Q	MediaTek MT9950 120Hz webOS 22 CPU GPU RAM ROM HDMI x2 (2.1) x2 (2.0b) USB x2 (2.0)	- - IPS -	x = x =	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::		%%	%%	AMD FreeSync 40-120Hz			--	--
			x = x =	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::		%%	%%				--	--

[AntrAcsA]

Американците много хвалят TCL CLASS 6-SERIES 4K MINI-LED QLED, казват че в бюджетния сегмент, няма кой да го бие! Примерно 75 инча за 1299 долара, но защо не мога да го намеря на Европейския пазар ? Под какво име се подвизава тук или е ексклузивен за Америка? с R635 не намерих нищо..

[hristoslav2]

Не търси аналози - щатските модели на TCL се различават съществено от европейските.

[Dominator]

Взех си A8-цата на Сони. Благодаря Ви колеги!

[hristoslav2]

Направих някои допълнения, но все още остават празни клетки.

LCD TV with mini LED - 2022 models
Brand & Series	SoC	Type LCD maker	Local Dimming	Black level	Peak Brightnes D65 (nits- window)	Contrast	Color tech	Relative color volume DCI-P3	Color Space Rec.2020	VRR Input lag	Max Technical Dynamic Range	Real Dynamic Range	Picture Settings	Notes
TCL 75C935X1 TCL 65C935X1	MediaTek MT9615 aka MT5889 120Hz（VRR 144Hz） Google TV- Amati UI CPU Cortex A-73x4 @ 1.37GHz? (1.6 max) GPU G52(2EE)MP2, 550Mhz RAM 3GB DDR4-2666 ROM 32GB :eMMC5.0 HDMI 2x2.1 / 2x2.0b USB x1 (2.0)	HighVerticalAlignment HVA - CSOT (8 domains)	96 x 20 = 1920 (7680 blue leds) 72 x 15 = 1080 (6480 blue leds) Led pitch - 14 mm Driving control led - 16bit/12bit	0.0001 nits (ANSI) 0.0001 nits (ANSI)	2200 nits	40000 (with LD) 6020:1 (native)	QD G+R	93-100%	70-79%	HDMI Forum VRR AMD FreeSync 24-144 with LFC 17,2 ms(4K60) 7,6 ms(2K120)	24	23	--	--
TCL 75C835X1 TCL 65C835X1 TCL 55C835X1	MediaTek MT9615 aka MT5889 120Hz（VRR 144Hz） Google TV- Amati UI CPU Cortex A-73x4 @ 1.37GHz? (1.6 max) GPU G52(2EE)MP2, 550Mhz RAM 3GB DDR4-2666 ROM 32GB :eMMC5.0 HDMI 2x2.1 / 2x 2.0b USB x1 (2.0)	HighVerticalAlignment HVA - CSOT (8 domains)	24 x 15 = 360 (1440 blue leds) 24 x 12 = 288 (1152 blue leds) 24 x 10 = 240 (960 blue leds) Led pitch - 30 mm Driving control led - 16bit/12bit	0.0001 nits (ANSI)	1313 -10% 1600 - 25% 638 -100%	36000:1 (with LD) 6020:1 (native)	QD G+R	93-100 %	70-79%	HDMI Forum VRR AMD FreeSync 24-144 fps with LFC 17,2 ms(4K60) 7,6 ms(2K120)	23	22	Brightness: 45 Contrast: 90 Black Level 50 Dynamic Contrast: Off Black Stretch: High Dynamic Brightness: Auto Local Dimming: High Local Contrast: Off/Low/High Gamma: 2 Color Saturation: 50 Hue: 50 Dynamic Color: Off Blue Light Filter: Off Sharpness: 0-10 MPEG NR: Low DNR: Low Superior Gradation: Off/Low Motion Clarity: On Clear LED Motion: Off Reduce Fade: 10 Reduce Shake: 4-10 Screen Settings/Overscan: Off	Noise reduction does a good job of removing random noise from the image, but compression noise that is visible as block formation does remain somewhat behind. In that area.Since last year there is also the “superior gradation” setting that can eliminate color bands in soft color gradients. That setting works great, even in dark scenes like our Game of Thrones test, but it does make the image quite soft. It is therefore best to activate them only if you deem it necessary, and only in the lowest position.
Sony XR-85X95K Sony XR-75X95K Sony XR-65X95K	MT9970 (aka MT5895) 120Hz GoogleTV CPU Cortex-A73x4 @ 1.8 GHz GPU ARM Mali G-52 MC2 GPU RAM 4GB ROM 16GB HDMI 2x 2.1(48Gbs) / 2x 2.0b(18Gbs) USB 2x 2.0	HVA - CSOT HVA - CSOT A-MVA - AUO	46 x 18 = 828 40 x 15 = 600 36 x 12 = 432	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	2200 nits (10%)	::	QD	%	%%	- < 8.5ms		22	--	when VRR is activated, local dimming is turned off
Samsung QE-85QN95B Samsung QE-75QN95B Samsung QE-65QN95B Samsung QE-55QN95B - Samsung QE-65QN94B Samsung QE-55QN94B Samsung QE-50QN94B Samsung QE-43QN94B	MediaTek MT99x0 120Hz (VRR 144Hz) Tizen 7.0 CPU Cortex A-73x4 GPU RAM HDMI 4x 2.1 (40Gbs) USB 2x 2.0	A-MVA - AUO (85") HVA - CSOT (75") HVA - CSOT (65") A-MVA - AUO (55") SVA - Innolux (50") A-MVA - AUO (43")	x = (85") x = 792 (75") 40 x 18 = 720 (65") 36 x 16 = 576 (55") x = (50") 30 x 12 = 360 (43") Driving control led - 14 bit	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI) -	2000 nits (10%) -	- 24120:1 (max LD) 3208:1 (min LD) -	QD	%	%%	40-144Hz -		22	Picture Mode: Movie Picture Size Settings: 16:9 Standard Fit to Screen: On Brightness: 3 Contrast: 45 Sharpness: 5 Color: 25 Tint(G/R): 0 Local Dimming: Standard Contrast Enhancement: Off Film Mode: Auto ColorTone: Warm 2 Gamma: BT.1886 / 0 Shadow Detail: 0 Color Space: Auto Auto or Customized: blur power : 10 Vibration Reduction: 6-8 Led Clear Motion: Off Noise Reduction: Auto or Off	backlight - low,medium,highyou cannot switch off via the menus, as you need to do it through the service menu
Samsung QE-85QN90B Samsung QE-75QN90B Samsung QE-65QN90B Samsung QE-55QN90B Samsung QE-50QN90B Samsung QE-43QN90B	MediaTek MT96xx 120Hz (VRR 144Hz) Tizen 6.5 CPU Cortex A-73x4 @ GPU RAM ROM HDMI 4x 2.1 (40Gbs) USB 2x 2.0	A-MVA - AUO (85") HVA - CSOT (75") HVA - CSOT (65") A-MVA - AUO (55") VA - Innolux (50") A-MVA - AUO (43")	x = x = 40 x 18 = 720 - - 30 x 12 = 360	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::	QD	%	%	40-144Hz			--	--
Samsung QE-85QN85B Samsung QE-75QN85B Samsung QE-65QN85B Samsung QE-55QN85B	MediaTEK MT96xx 120Hz (VRR 144Hz) Tizen 6.5 CPU Cortex A-73x4 @ GPU RAM ROM HDMI 1x 2.1 / 3x 2.0b USB 2x2.0	A-MVA - AUO (85") ADS-BOE (75") ADS-BOE (65") ADS-BOE (55")	- - 40 x 18 = 720 36 x 14 = 504 -	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	1100 nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::	QD	- - - 88 %	%	40-120Hz			--	backlight - low,medium,highyou cannot switch off via the menus, as you need to do it through the service menu
Philips 75PML9507 Philips 65PML9507 Philips 55PML9507	Mediatek MT9970B (aka MT5895) 120Hz Android 11 CPU Cortex A-73x4 @ 1.8GHz GPU RAM 4GB DDR4 ROM 16GB :eMMC HDMI 2x 2.1 / 2x 2.0b USB 2x 2.0 / 1x 3.0	- MVA -	x = 32 x 32 = 1024 x = 500	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	1500 nits (ANSI)	::		95 %	%	AMD FreeSync Premium 40-120Hz			--	--
Hisense 75U8HQ Hisense 65U8HQ Hisense 55U8HQ	MediaTek MT9900AAAQPC 120Hz VIDAA U6.0 CPU Cortex A-73x4 @ 1.8GHz GPU RAM 4GB DDR4 ROM 16GB :eMMC HDMI 2x 2.1 / 2x 2.0b USB 1x 2.0 / 1x 3.0	--	x = 12 x 10 = 120 x =	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	1500 nits (ANSI)	::	QD	99 %	%	AMD FreeSync 40-120Hz			--	--
LG 86QNED99_Q LG 75QNED99_Q LG 65QNED99_Q	MediaTek MT9950 + coprocessor 120Hz webOS 22 CPU GPU RAM ROM HDMI 4x 2.1 (40Gbs) USB 1x 3.0 / 2x 2.0	- IPS IPS	60 x 40 = 2400 60 x 32 = 1920 40 x 30 = 1200	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::	QD	%	%	AMD FreeSync 40-120Hz			--	--
LG 75QNED96_QB LG 65QNED96_QB LG 75QNED95_QB LG 65QNED95_QB	MediaTek MT 60Hz webOS 22 CPU GPU RAM ROM HDMI 4x 2.1 (40Gbs) USB 1x 3.0 / 2x 2.0	- IPS	60 x 32 = 1920 40 x 30 = 1200	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::	QD	%%	%%	- 40-60Hz			--	--
LG 86QNED91_QB LG 75QNED91_QB LG 65QNED91_QB	MediaTek MT9950 120Hz webOS 22 CPU GPU RAM ROM HDMI 2x 2.1 (48Gbs) / 2x 2.0b (18Gbs) USB 2x 2.0	IPS IPS IPS	60 x 24 =1440 48 x 20 = 960 48 x 20 = 960	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::	QD	%%	%%	AMD FreeSync 40-120Hz			--	--
LG 75QNED87_QB LG 65QNED87_QB LG 55QNED87_QB LG 86QNED86_QB LG 75QNED86_QB LG 65QNED86_QB LG 55QNED86_QB LG 86QNED85_QB LG 75QNED85_QB LG 65QNED85_QB LG 55QNED85_QB	MediaTek MT9950 120Hz webOS 22 CPU GPU RAM ROM HDMI 2x 2.1 (48Gbs) / 2x 2.0b (18Gbs) USB 2x 2.0	- IPS IPS IPS	60 x 24 = 1440 (86") 48 x 20 = 960 (75") 48 x 20 = 960 (65") x = (55")	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI) nits (ANSI)	::	QD	%%	%%	AMD FreeSync 40-120Hz			--	--
			x =	nits (ANSI)	nits (ANSI)	::		%%	%%				--	--

[ivanpet]

До днес има 50х93j за 1700лв из различните магазини и много му се чудя, очаква се на 15-ти някаква кампания на сони с кешбек (не се знае колко, поне като се обаждах на сони не казаха) за 90k и 5 години, само за да ми усложни живота(решението).

[gurcayy]

Тоя кешбек го рекламират за модели 2022.

[ivanpet]

да ама зависи колко е, по-скоро ползата е в голямата гаранция, като гледам всичко е направено да заминава на втория месец, след изтичането на гаранцията.
Реално ако е 300-400лв кешбек и гаранция 5 години няма да е зле, но нямам на идея (за това и чуденката, да взимам ли 93j, или филипса от тази година за 1300).

[gurcayy]

Е, да, в случая удължената гаранция + някакъв кешбек, си е сериозен плюс.

93J няма да има кешбек според мен.

[joj73]

Здравейте, понеже стария тв изгоря ще може ли съвет за долните параметри. Благодаря.

Здравейте,
Моля за съвет за LED телевизор 40-43 инча.
Бюджет до 600 лв.
Може и да е смарт.
Осветена стая.
Гледа се през Vivacom IPTV. Понякога и филми през фрашка.
Няма да се ползва за игри или свързване с компютър.

Предварително благодаря!

Гледам няколко телевизора:

Samsung UE 43AU7172
Philips 43PUS7556
Toshiba 43UA2063DG
LG 43UP76903LE

Ако може да препоръчате. Предварително благодаря.

[gurcayy]

Samsung 43AU7172

[joj73]

Благодаря много! Скачам